Episode reaction: SPN 12x12

[vyperdd]

A few thoughts....

Wow, that was the most crazy ep I think I've seen. I loved it!!! Not really sure why but I really really loved it!!!! Will need to watch it again and hopefully ALL the time jumps and flashbacks will make a bit more sense.

But I loved the call backs to Azazel and Michael and Crowley becoming King Of Hell and the Colt!!!! OMG, that last scene with Crowley and Lucifer opens up so many many questions. Will never not love seeing Mark Pellegrino as Lucifer.

But what the heck was that slo-mo near the start. Sure it looked super cool but what was the point of it?? Am thinking Speight was on something when he directed this ep and the title cards, they were weird too.
And, oh boy!! I so want to slap Mary into next week for putting her sons in danger, for working for the bastards who tortured Sam and threatened to kill Dean, for keeping secrets about something so fundamentally important to them and their entire lives work. They deserve so much better from her!

Loved Jared's performance so much. His hurt towards Mary, knowing she is not telling him things, knowing that she is in some of trouble or danger but won't share that burden with them. His need to know she's okay hunting again and her response as she walked away was heartbreaking.

LOL'ed at everyone ordering food but Sam wanting the free wifi password!!! Never change, baby!!

Also loved the convo with everyone talking over each other and especially Sam's "Why would you want them to smell like food?" Then Mary turns on the Mum voice "Hey" and everyone goes immediately quiet, Sam and Dean looking like little kids. Sam's "Sorry, mum." was just too adorable.

A big surprise was how much I enjoyed Misha this week. He played hurt/dying Cas really well, not going too over the top like when he played Lucifer last season, keeping it more real and quite emotional.

Am sure to have more to say after I do a rewatch or two. Am sure I missed a lot of little details.

Jared tweeted this during the West Coast airing:

Sam's reaction to Mandy calling @mishacollins "handsome" was more Jared than Sam... #spnfamily

— Jared Padalecki (@jarpad) February 17, 2017

Comments

[toratio.livejournal.com]

It's actually kind of painful to watch Sam interacting with Mary, because he's so desperate for her attention, to feel some kind of connection with her. Which she seems to be constantly refusing to give. She's actually similar to John in a lot of ways.

I'm loving Cas' love, but - we need more broments in season 12. We haven't even had a hug. Where's my broments??

[vyperdd.livejournal.com]

Oh god yes!!!! I feel so sorry for Sam. He's finally has his mum back in his life and yet she seems to prefer to stay away. She's not even keeping in touch with text or calls. Sam always has to ask Dean how she is, has he heard from her. Even when she is with them, there's such a huge chasm between them and you can see how much it's really hurting him. I feel he wants to confront her, to kind of force her to respond to him and his needs but he's so worried about pushing her further away that he's keeping (barely) his feelings inside.

And why oh why didn't we get his reaction or any follow up when Mary told him the demon had yellow eyes??? That was a massive revelation and something so personal to Sam and his relationship with Mary and it needed to be given the attention it deserved.

I'm missing the broments too, very much. Am still mad as hell that we didn't get a hug back in 12x02 and should have gotten one last week after Dean got his memory back.

This was my favourite Misha performance in a very long time. Have been very bored with Cas since late season 7 so it was a very pleasant surprise to actually feel something for him during those scenes.

[toratio.livejournal.com]

Seriously, I want to slap Mary. So very much.

And yeah, every interaction Mary has is through Dean. And Sam is trying, to the point of asking her if she's okay, and he wants to help and be a good son. And what makes me angry is that he's actually quite forgiving, he tends to stick up for her and act like it's okay (even though it's totally not, and like you say, he probably wants to ask her what's going on).

I'm finding 12 difficult - I really liked 11, and there was a lot of heart in it. This season has had a few moments - actually mostly with Cas and the boys, which is lovely - but ahhh, broments! I just need a couple of nice little chats or a goddamn hug or something.

I still think Sam should've punched Dean for last week's little "joke". Actually, that would've been funny, a la in first season when Sam's like "did I miss anything?" and Dean slugs him.

[vyperdd.livejournal.com]

I really think they have wasted having Mary back. There's so much more they could do with her and the boys, so much history to be talked about.

I'm enjoying S12, though would love even a few Sam-centric eps, and lots more focus on everything Sam went thru in 12x01/2. There's be no aftermath, not even any discussion.

I was so pissed at Dean, not so much for the joke as I think it was in character, but for him stretching it out so long. He had to have see the pain on Sam's face, thinking the spell hadn't worked and that he had failed. It was needlessly cruel. Yeah, that would have been a great call back to Born Under A Bad Sign.

[toratio.livejournal.com]

Yeah - I'm getting to the point where I wish they'd just kill her off. I was kind of hoping they would in First Blood.

And I would also like to see Toni come back and get her comeuppance. Or, yeah, some acknowledgement. Ugh, so much handwaved stuff like PTSD.

And yeah, Dean did draw it out too much. It actually felt a little out of character for him to be that mean about it.

[ratfan.livejournal.com]

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Ok. I think the slo-mo ties in with the music from Deliverance (I think!) and the ultimate revealing of the Colt.

Beyond that, I'd have to be more awake than I am now.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

Lucky we weren't watching this one together! I really did;t like it (sadly). I hated what they've done to Mary now. Up until now I was liking the direction but she nearly got her sons killed. And she's lying. Now I don't like her and that makes me unhappy... :(

And watching Cas dying was painful (but not in a "good" painful way!

Eek! Sorry. It's not fair to come on here and be miserable. I just finished watching and needed to get that off my chest.

[vyperdd.livejournal.com]

Have seen Deliverance once a fair while ago (I think on my flight back from LA after my US cons, so Nov '15) but don't remember the music, apart from the dueling banjo scene, so this doesn't help a lot. Will have to pay more attention to the music on my next watch.

Have also seen references to Tarantino in some other reviews but haven't seen any of his movies so that doesn't help either. :-/

[vyperdd.livejournal.com]

Hey, it's okay. I enjoy reading what you think of an ep, so feel free to get things off your chest. Though would have made for an interesting sight as I was literally bopping around and giggling after my first viewing. Kinda embarrassing, actually.

There was a few things I didn't like, mostly to do with Mary and how she's treating the boys, Sam in particular. It's so not how I thought the writers would have used her and it seems such a waste of what should have been a fantastic opportunity to show her relationship with her sons and how what she did before Sam was even born has affected them and made them the men they are today.

But, I agree, they are slowly killing everything I used to love about the character. Just hope they can somehow turn things around, have her be honest and open with Sam and Dean.

Get the feeling you didn't enjoy Misha's performance? LOL Please, correct me if I'm wrong.

It wasn't until the final credits that I realised that I really enjoyed it. I spent pretty much the entire ep being very confused with all the flashbacks and repetition and going WTF & WTH??? But then it was like, Yeah, I really liked that. As I said, I still really don't know why but the feeling of loving an ep so totally feels so good that I don't feel the need to analyse it too deeply.

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

Wow, that was the most crazy ep I think I've seen. I loved it!!! Not really sure why but I really really loved it!!!! Will need to watch it again and hopefully ALL the time jumps and flashbacks will make a bit more sense.

Same here! There were a couple of things I didn't like (mainly WTF MARY!??) but I loved it. The style of it with the titles, the music and the slo-mo was very Tarantino, I think this was Richard's homage to him! He did a brilliant job directing.

[katwoman76.livejournal.com]

That slo mo is a reference to Reservoir Dog (so Tarantino, yes)

so is the time jumps and title cards and the dinner scene and the song reference from the episode title

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

I adored it too!!! I love the whole Tarantino vibe, and it was fast and exciting, and thoroughly entertaining!!! I am struggling with Mary a little, but I'm hoping they have a plan for her, so that it will all make sense (ie she's working with the BMoL to rid the USA of monsters so that her sons don't have to hunt? The boys are in on it and she's playing a double agent?)

I gasped out aloud and said WTF? to my TV when the demon had yellow eyes, and Mark P at the end was just magical. Loved it!!!